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Extremely really cramped engine bay lengthwise. yeah, had currently figured that out ... it was a tongue in cheek post, that I didn't explain ... my bad In respond to spitfirebill: I added that factor since when I had to locate a replacement 4.9 for my F150, I needed to go through every one in every junkyard in South Jersey to locate one that had not been sludged up truly severely.
Bernie: Which is a far better van, while we're going to chat concerning a few concerns of these vans, however I I'm clearly not going to come out and state one is better than the various other. Bernie: Well, they're basically the exact same car.
Mark: So, well, let's start with engines after that. Allow's talk regarding engine and really simply to specify that the model years, we're going to begin from 2000 and up, you recognize, I suggest, these vans have actually been around for a long time.
And, you recognize, for a version of a Chevy van has actually been around because, you recognize, around that time also. We're not going to obtain back right into, into the earlier things. Because 2000, I suggest, Ford's, you can get these with V6 engines or V8s. V8s are much a lot more preferred and I wouldn't truly recommend a V6 engine.
There's a whole lot of issues with these engines. In the earlier 2000 stimulate plugs with strike to these engines, since they really did not have enough threading in the stimulate plug, which caused troubles.
If you're acquiring anything from probably 08 and more recent, you're not going to have that kind of spark plug issues. Various other areas though, with the Fords that we see, consumption manifolds will certainly leakage, they'll develop coolant leakages. It's a plastic manifold typically you have to change the whole thing.
And there's some concerns, the Ford engine I need to say in their favour, because I'm chatting regarding troubles, it's an extra advanced engine. Expenses cam, so you're obtaining more power and efficiency out of the engine than you would on a Chevy, which is a less complex design with push poles.
They're simply actually respectable, long lasting, solid engines. You understand, being a van, of course, you know, doing any type of solution on them is a lot more difficult due to the fact that you've obtained to remove that cover and get into servicing in strange ways. However points like ignition system last a dreadful lengthy time, so they do not need to be replaced extremely often.
Mark: Can you purchase these vans with diesel engines? The Fords have actually had diesels in them for a long time, like method back before the 2000 design year.
You know, that's still offered. If you're a say, I do not know, I'm simply going to state a plumbing professional and you've obtained like a whole lot of heavyweight inside your van and you're hauling a trailer behind it, that would certainly be a truly good usage of having a diesel powered van.
In all fairness, it appears like the diesels are, they seem to have much less troubles in vans than they perform in the vehicles. Probably due to the fact that they aren't worked so hard, yet when points happen, they're really expensive to repair. We've obtained a great deal of videos and information regarding diesels, particularly the Fords.
You really require to assume twice regarding obtaining a diesel in a van. And I will state, Chevy is rather a lot limited to V8 engines, but Ford has a V 10 engine as well, which is a monstrous gas consuming engine.
If you're, and once more, we're just talking concerning kind of a right, routine freight van here. Look at your objective, your usage, exactly how much weight you're carrying and that'll help you make the decision.
Something that we have not spoken about here is what type of van. These vans are, and it depends upon what version, they're available ever before from half lot to one ton chassis and actually some of the exploded view vans are in fact a lot more durable, like, you understand, 450s and 550s for state the Fords.
Bernie: You understand, I'm going to offer the edge to Ford on this one. And the factor for Ford is that it's a little simpler.
There's less steering link entailed in a Chevy. Do Chevy's, yet it seems, and the Chevy's possibly last a bit longer than the Fords, but the, you know, the steering linkage is much less complicated, so there's much less components and much less items to use out.
The ride in a Ford is probably a bit much more truck like however I don't recognize if you 'd in fact ever before actually observed a distinction between the two. It appears like their components are a little tougher on the Ford than the Chevy. Mark: What regarding brakes? Bernie: Brakes are basically the exact same, yet I will say that it looks like with Fords, the means they construct their brake calipers, that they often tend to need to be changed almost whenever you do a brake job.
For some reason, they seem to last for one brake work. And then a great deal of times we take the brakes off and state, Oh, the dust boots torn, and so the caliper requires to be replaced. I believe on a Ford and you can anticipate to spend a little more money on brakes and you can on a Chevy.
And I can, I'm going to swerve back before the 2000 version years, there were some Chevy vans that had actually negative doors. I suggest, the moving doors were crap, you understand, really badly built. Actually, I would certainly claim that if you are even taking a look at something older, it feels like Chevy and GMC vans really and their vehicles generally really took a jump forward in top quality around the 2000 model year, since there was a whole lot of things where the brakes as an example would certainly not last very long whatsoever.
However if we're checking out the 2000 more recent, I indicate, I would certainly say they're both possibly quite much matching in top quality, fit and coating, you recognize, several of the guest vans, obviously we'll have better consultations than the freight vans. Yet I can not say that one of them attracts attention to me a bit even more than the various other.
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