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Extremely really cramped engine bay lengthwise. yeah, had actually currently figured that out ... it was a tongue in cheek article, that I didn't make clear ... my bad In reply to spitfirebill: I added that point because when I had to find a substitute 4.9 for my F150, I had to go through every one in every junkyard in South Jacket to find one that had not been sludged up truly badly.
Bernie: Which is a much better van, while we're going to talk concerning a few problems of these vans, however I I'm clearly not going to come out and say one is much better than the various other. Bernie: Well, they're basically the same lorry.
They seem to be a bit more made use of because location, yet, you recognize, those are some of the uses, yet they're essentially the same group of lorry. Mark: So, well, let's begin with engines after that. What issues do you see in between these two cars? Bernie: Yeah. So let's discuss engine and in fact simply to define that the version years, we're going to begin with 2000 and up, you understand, I mean, these vans have been around for a long period of time.
And, you know, for a version of a Chevy van has actually been around considering that, you understand, around that time too. Since 2000, I mean, Ford's, you can get these with V6 engines or V8s.
You recognize, Fords, and many of them come with the Triton V8. There's a lot of problems with these engines. In the earlier 2000 spark plugs with blow to these engines, because they didn't have enough threading in the ignition system, which caused issues. And frequently that would occur when you could be in a 15 guest bus going up a hill with a tons of individuals and all of an abrupt boom, a spark plug bulges and you're stranded.
So if you're buying anything from probably 08 and more recent, you're not going to have that type of ignition system concerns. Various other locations though, with the Fords that we see, consumption manifolds will certainly leak, they'll create coolant leaks. It's a plastic manifold generally you have to replace the entire thing.
And there's some concerns, the Ford engine I have to claim in their favour, because I'm speaking about issues, it's an extra advanced engine. Expenses webcam, so you're obtaining more power and performance out of the engine than you would on a Chevy, which is a simpler layout with push poles.
They're simply truly pretty good, resilient, solid engines. You understand, being a van, of program, you recognize, doing any kind of service on them is much more complicated because you've got to remove that cover and enter into servicing in odd means. Points like trigger plugs last an awful long time, so they don't require to be replaced very often.
Mark: Can you buy these vans with diesel motor? Bernie: You can and we do service a few of them. I can't consider if we've ever before done a Chevy, but Chevy, they're readily available from 2006 to 16 with a Duramax diesel. The Fords have actually had diesels in them for a very long time, like back before the 2000 model year.
You know, that's still readily available. I would certainly not advise a diesel unless you're transporting incredibly heavy tons. Diesels need to be functioned. That's actually the bottom line with a diesel. So if you're a say, I do not know, I'm simply mosting likely to claim a plumbing professional and you have actually got like a whole lot of heavyweight inside your van and you're hauling a trailer behind it, that would be an actually excellent use of having a diesel powered van.
In all justness, it looks like the diesels are, they seem to have much less issues in vans than they do in the trucks. Most likely since they aren't functioned so hard, yet when points occur, they're actually pricey to fix. We've obtained a great deal of videos and details about diesels, especially the Fords.
So you really require to reconsider getting a diesel in a van. That's my recommendation. Mark: Yeah, so suitable for function, see to it that you're suitable the engine that you're getting for the purpose that you're endeavouring to satisfy. Bernie: Yeah, precisely. And I will state, Chevy is rather a lot limited to V8 engines, but Ford has a V 10 engine also, which is an impressive gas guzzling engine.
Yet if you're, and again, we're just discussing sort of a straight, regular freight van here. The diesel definitely isn't the very best choice. Take a look at your purpose, your usage, just how much weight you're carrying and that'll assist you decide. Mark: What about the transmission and the remainder of the drive train? Bernie: They're rather much equal.
One point that we haven't spoken about below is what kind of van. These vans are, and it depends on what design, they're offered ever before from half heap to one heap chassis and in fact several of the cutaway vans are really even much more resilient, like, you recognize, 450s and 550s for claim the Fords.
Typically the drive trains, you recognize, I discover them to be quite much equal. Mark: So allow's talk about guiding and suspension. Just how do they contrast? Bernie: You understand, I'm going to give the edge to Ford on this set. And the factor for Ford is that it's a little easier.
There's much less steering linkage entailed in a Chevy. Do Chevy's, but it appears, and the Chevy's most likely last a little longer than the Fords, yet the, you know, the steering linkage is a lot less difficult, so there's less parts and much less products to wear out.
The adventure in a Ford is most likely a little extra vehicle like however I don't recognize if you 'd actually ever truly observed a distinction in between the two. It looks like their components are a little tougher on the Ford than the Chevy. Mark: What regarding brakes? Bernie: Brakes are virtually the very same, however I will say that it seems like with Fords, the way they build their brake calipers, that they tend to need to be replaced nearly each time you do a brake task.
Somehow, they appear to last for one brake work. And after that a whole lot of times we take the brakes off and state, Oh, the dirt boots torn, therefore the caliper needs to be changed. So I believe on a Ford and you can expect to invest a little more money on brakes and you can on a Chevy.
And I can, I'm going to digress back prior to the 2000 version years, there were some Chevy vans that had truly poor doors. I suggest, the sliding doors were crap, you recognize, truly terribly constructed. In fact, I would claim that if you are also looking at something older, it looks like Chevy and GMC vans truly and their trucks generally actually took a leap forward in top quality around the 2000 design year, because there was a great deal of stuff where the brakes for example would not last long in all.
But if we're taking a look at the 2000 newer, I imply, I would certainly state they're both most likely basically matching in quality, fit and finish, you know, a few of the guest vans, naturally we'll have nicer visits than the cargo vans. But I can't say that one of them attracts attention to me a little bit even more than the various other.
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